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ON THE RECORD

By James, Kay Coles
Publication: Government Executive
Date: Sunday, February 1 2004
HEADNOTE

Managing the federal personnel system in a time of change.

Office of Personnel Management Director Kay Coles (aines has a bird's-eye view of some of the biggest changes taking place in the federal civil service

in decades. In January, she sat down with Government Executive staff correspondent Shawn Zeller to talk about the state of the civil service, the subject of a broader story in this issue. Edited excerpts from their conversation follow.

On efforts to free agencies from civil service rules:

I don't like talking about it in terms of coming out from under Title 5 (of the U.S. Code], or being excluded from Title 5. Quite frankly, it's 180 degrees opposite from that. Congress spoke very clearly. When we were developing the legislation for the Department of Homeland security, with all the changes that were recommended, there was one change that we didn't make and that was that the department should be under Title 5. The same thing is true of DoD. Were there waivers and exceptions to portions of Title 5? Yes. But I think it's significant that neither of those departments is out from under Title 5. I don't like my own language when I say that-"out from under Title 5"the implication being that it is some overbearing, burdensome legislation.

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